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Wednesday, March 3, 2010

Upgrade your RAM memory

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  1. Thanks for the detailed explanation. Very much appreciated!

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  2. I have bought this laptop. It is great, but I have a problem playing movies in the care while I am driving - it stutters. Even if I walk around holding it, the movies stutter. It looks like there is some sensor related to touchpad - I don't know what to do? Somebody can help me? Thanks,
    Adam

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  3. You are going to have issues with playing movies in a car because of a program that tries to save your hard drive from being damaged.

    The program is called Active Protection System ( APS ) and it stops the hard drive each time it senses too much vibration. This stops your video player from accessing the hard drive and thus you get the stutter. Once the vibration stops the hard disk resumes.

    You have some options to fix that stutter.
    1. Save your movies on a SD Card and play them from there. Your S10-3T has an SD Card Slot. I recommend having at least 4GB (maybe enough for 3 movies) - http://bit.ly/al8Auv They are getting cheaper so maybe you can get a good deal.
    2. Replace the Hard Disk Hard drive for a Solid State Drive ( SSD ) This option takes a bit of work and SSDs are expensive - http://bit.ly/d9a7sa

    The SD Card solution is the cheapest solution and the one I recommend.

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  4. Thanks a lot for pointing out what the problem is. I solved it with your help, but I just uninstalled this APS program. Now I can even dance with my laptop and no stuttering anymore! Thanks a lot again!!!! You are the number one!!!!
    Adam

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  5. Be careful with not having APS. If you shake the system too much you can have problems with your hard drive. Hard drive problems can be permanent and would require replacement of the device.

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  6. Any chance you will be installing a bluetooth module? i've been looking for the correct one and the only thing i've seen is that the unit for the s10-2 is supposed to be compatible but there or no screen shots of the tear down process to install it..

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  7. @Anonymous
    I have a mini pci-e card with wifi bg and bluetooth. I have to flash the bios to get it working. If you check the "To Do Crystal HD or Not to Do Crystal HD" post you can find the links and guide to how to flash the bios.

    You cannot just add the module and it works. It will give you an error because of the "whitelist" problem. So when you add the device to the whitelist then it's all fine and it works.

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  8. hi i got a corsair ddr2 2g for the s10-3t i was wondering if thats a good memory if not what else you recommend?

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  9. @Anonymous

    Corsair makes some good memory ram. Right now I'm using a Crucial 2GB module. You can view the details at the link I posted above. (Right below the video)

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  10. Nice Tutorial,

    I am thinking of upgrading my s10-3t myself. Would you be so kind and tell me what the specifications of the ram-module is? Are there 2 docks - would it be possible to upgrade to 2x1GB, thus keeping the existing 1GB-Module? Does opening the s10-3t void guaranty?

    Thanks in advance,

    newS10-3T_owner

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  11. I'm using a Crucial 2GB DDR2 200-Pin SODIMM RAM module at 667Mhz. There is 1 dock so you will need 1 2GB module.

    Opening the cover won't void the warranty, however changing the RAM module is changing what Lenovo put in, and therefore yes it voids the warranty. If something goes bad then you put in the old ram module and ship the S10-3T back. Hahaha. ;)

    Usually changing RAM doesn't do anything to harm the system so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

    If you are interested in the the module then check the link at the top of this page, or check the Buy Stuff section.

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  12. Is it still necessary to do a RAM upgrade if you use Readyboost? An extra GB of RAM runs about $45, where a 8GB SD card runs about $15...

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  13. @Anonymous
    I recommend the 2GB Ram more than the Readyboost. I have not tried the unit with Readyboost and with only 1GB RAM.

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  14. Hi bro, do you know the differentiaion of module 667Mhz and 800Mhz? I scared it caused some heat. How about the battery?

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  15. @Anonymous regarding RAM Mhz
    Yes the 800Mhz will be a bit hotter, pricier, but it's also a bit faster. Now how much faster? I wouldn't worry about it for most of the general computing you can do with the s10-3T. If the S10-3T had a Core i7 CPU then maybe the 800Mhz would be the way to go, but you have the Atom on the S10-3T so 667Mhz is fine.

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  16. thanks for the tips, just added it. 4GB now, I`m happy.

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  17. @Anonymous regarding 4GB
    You added 4GB RAM? I thought the system could only handle 2GB RAM, but maybe I have been wrong all this time.

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  18. hi jesse, thanks for all your awesome tips! am using all those to tweak my s103t. I just encountered a glitch...i added a 2gig sd card solely for the readyboost option, but when i turned on my s103t, (with the sd card attached on the slot, the screen just showed blank, i removed the card and turned on the computer again, it worked fine. This blank screen happens if i leave the sd card on the slot and turned on the computer, please help. Thanks!

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  19. @Mike
    For the SD Card to work properly you must first make sure that the drivers are installed. After the drivers are installed there might be a bios boot order conflict. To modify it go into your bios settings. (when you start your S10-3T there's some keys you must press) Get in there and make sure that the hard disk is first in the order, put the SD card at the bottom.

    If that doesn't work then you could do a Bios update to try to flush any errors that could have been created by data corruption (it happens every once in a while). http://acite.info/s103t-bios

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  20. Hi Jesse, Nice post. I am planning to buy Lenovo s10-3t. Amazon has mentioned that s10-3t has 204 pins, while the upgrade they ship for s10-3t has 200 pins, is it a typo error from Amazon ?

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  21. @Anonymous regarding pin count
    I hadn't noticed the 204 pin count there. I ordered my 1.6Ghz one with 8 cell battery from Amazon and I'm using a 200 pin sodimm. It works just fine.

    Both 200 and 204 support 64bit data transfer. The difference is that 204 pin supports DDR3 memory so they are "faster". 200 pin goes at 800Mhz max and well 204's go up a bit more. There is the pin count difference too. Details at:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SO-DIMM
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM

    I'm curious to know if anyone here uses the 204 pin sodimm, but I doubt it. I opened my S10-3T and got the pin count. My S10-3T has a 20 pin on one side which means that it uses the 200 pin sodimm. If anyone opens it and they count 36 on one side then it uses the DDR3 204 pin. I'm guessing the details in Amazon are wrong and all S10-3Ts use the 200 pin. I would have lots of people complaining that my RAM stick suggestions don't work, which hasn't occurred yet.

    You brought a good point to note there. If you get the S10-3T please use the Amazon link on the "Buy Stuff" section since it helps the site stay alive by giving lenovos103t.com a little commission. Thanks!

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  22. Hi there!
    Does 2 GB of RAM work really much faster then 1?

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  23. @Anonymous regarding 2GB RAM faster than 1GB
    If you run one program at a time then you might not need it. If you run multiple programs then you probably will as the programs will need to store temporary memory.

    For more details check:
    http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question175.htm

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  24. a previous poster mentioned they had installed 4gb of ram. Were they mistaken, or has anyone else been able to successfully install a 4gb stick?

    At Bestbuy they are currently selling it with windows 7 64x so theoretically 4gb should be supported with the operating system

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  25. @Dan
    I don't think you can upgrade the S10-3T to 4GB of RAM. (I might be wrong). Almost all descriptions say max of 2GB.

    There's also a little mistake at Best Buy. They mention that the S10-3T has 3 USB ports and I don't see it with my system at all. Could the 64bit Home Premium be a mistake too? Who knows.

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  26. Yeah, I don't know... it unfortunate non of the major retailers stock the s10-3t in store, it's only available online.

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  27. Hi, somewhere I've read that if you install a upper capacity RAM (4 GB) to 2 GB capacity computer, the 4 GB RAM will emulate itself to the speed of 2 GB. It means that it does not matter how big RAM you install, it still will work as if there is a 2 GB RAM on your slot. So do not waste your money.
    by OzO

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  28. Found the following Suzuki Neutron 701 Mini with much older Z520 Chipset which can support a maximum of 4GB RAM (it offers two SODIMM slots). May be interesting in quest for more memory. Theoretically it proves that if much older Intel Atom Z520 Chipset can support 4GB RAM, why not much latest Intel Atom N450 shouldn't? Also some deeper searches reveal that S10-3t has two memory slots (some kind of soldered internal memory slot having 512MB inbuilt soldered memory). I am not sure of it, but may be, who nows, just in case!



    Model
    Suzuki Neutron 701 MNI

    CPU
    Intel® Atom™ processor Z520 (1.3GHZ,1M Cache,667MHZ)

    Display 7.1" WSVGA TFT LCD Touch Panel

    Memory
    64-bit wide DDRII (DDR2) data channel
    Two 200Pin SODIMM sockets, support DDR2 800MHz
    Expandable memory up to 4GB, depends on 1GB/2GB SODIMM Module

    Video Controller
    Integrated 3D graphic, shared up to -256MB
    High preference 2D/3D

    Storage
    One changeable 12.7mm(H) Super-Multi ODD, PATA interface
    One changeable 2.5" 9.5mm(H) HDD, SATA interface

    Keyboard
    Multi language
    Built in Touch pad with scrolling -function

    Touch Stylus
    Panel button/Finger print/Pointer

    Sound System
    High Definition Audio interface
    Compliant with Microsoft UAA (Universal Audio Architecture)
    Direct Sound 3D™ compatible
    Built-in microphone
    Built-in two speakers

    I/O Ports
    3x USB 2.0 port
    1x External CRT port
    1x Headphone jack
    1x Microphone jack
    1x S/P DIF output jack
    1x RJ-11 jack
    1x RJ-45 jack
    1x DC-in jack

    Card Reader
    5-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/SC/S/Mini SD/MS)

    Slots
    One Express Card slot
    One Mini Card (Internal Mini PCI-E)) slot for WLAN, support USB interface

    Communication
    56K FAX / modem
    Built-in 10/100Mb Base-TX Ethernet -LAN
    Wireless LAN 802.11b/g Mini Card -module
    Bluepoint™ V2.1
    1.3M pixels Video Camera

    Power
    Full Range AC adapter 65W, AC in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, DC output 19V, -3.42A
    Removable 4 Cells Smart Lithium battery pack, 2400mAh
    Battery life up to 140 minutes with -2400mAh

    Security
    Kensington® Lock

    Dimension
    227.5(W) x 170.7(D) x29.9~25(H)mm
    0.92kg with 4 cells battery and ODD

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  29. Found the following Suzuki Neutron 701 Mini with much older Z520 Chipset which can support a maximum of 4GB RAM (it offers two SODIMM slots). May be interesting in quest for more memory. Theoretically it proves that if much older Intel Atom Z520 Chipset can support 4GB RAM, why not much latest Intel Atom N450 shouldn't? Also some deeper searches reveal that S10-3t has two memory slots (some kind of soldered internal memory slot having 512MB inbuilt soldered memory). I am not sure of it, but may be, who knows, just in case!

    Model
    Suzuki Neutron 701 MINI

    CPU
    Intel® Atom™ processor Z520 (1.3GHZ,1M Cache,667MHZ)

    Display 7.1" WSVGA TFT LCD Touch Panel

    Memory
    64-bit wide DDRII (DDR2) data channel
    Two 200Pin SODIMM sockets, support DDR2 800MHz
    Expandable memory up to 4GB, depends on 1GB/2GB SODIMM Module

    Video Controller
    Integrated 3D graphic, shared up to -256MB
    High preference 2D/3D

    Storage
    One changeable 12.7mm(H) Super-Multi ODD, PATA interface
    One changeable 2.5" 9.5mm(H) HDD, SATA interface

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  30. Sorry for double posting, but when I posted for first time, it returned that it is too large and couldn't be posted, so I trimmed the second then found that both went in!

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  31. Thank you for sharing how to do this and providing links to where you got things!!

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  32. i have big problem with upgrade i couldnt.
    mine is ddr3 1333 1gb. when i put 2gb i couldnt open pc. on light is turn on but i couldnt see anything in screen

    Product Configuration
    Parts information
    ......
    RAM RMT1950ED48E7W-1333 DDR3 1333 1GBRAM
    ......
    FL2D MB N455(559P)1.66 DDR3
    ......
    Win7 HP MEA COA OEMAct
    ....

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  33. It can be defective RAM or incompatible RAM. If it doesn't work it doesn't work and you will probably have to get another and compatible RAM module. I have links to 2 modules that are compatible with the S10-3T. They are posted right under "Gear on the video"

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  34. weird part is my ram DDR3 204 pin. i m thinking about can i upgrade or not. even when i put 2gb it have to work and can allow only 1gb if i couldnt upgrade. right ???
    Thanks

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  35. i bought from middle east, i think model is different. in lenovo site when i write my serial number it is showing these details and on ram it is writen

    Product Configuration
    Parts information
    ......
    RAM RMT1950ED48E7W-1333 DDR3 1333 1GBRAM

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  36. Thanks for help, i solved with samsung RAM.
    for info: Trascend and TwinMos not compatible for my model (Model Name ; 20040)

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  38. Hy Jesse!

    I have a S10-3t new edition (Aton N455), and I want to upgrade the memory.
    But!

    I chacked the Everest.
    The original memory: 1GB DRR3 204pin 1333MHz (667MHz)
    And Supported Memory Types: DDR2-667 SDRAM

    I tried to change to some type of 2GB DDR3 1333MHZ memory, but I didn't switch on the notebook.

    My bios version: 24cn61ww

    pls help!
    What kind of memory should I put it on?

    Thx Yg0R

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  39. I'm using Linux, and was sure that I never will need Windows, especially kind of crap like Windows 7, I was wrong ...

    Any ideas where I could find ISO (bootable version of bios update)

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  40. I have a brand new S10-3t and the connector layou of the 1GB memory is different from the Crucial and other memory available. The slot is more towards the middle. The only memory I can find that will fit is from Lenovo.

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  41. Same here, got few months old S10-3t. Ordered that linked Corsair memory and it does not fit in.

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  42. There's a good chance that Lenovo has changed the architecture of the S10-3T's RAM slot. The model that I had worked with those RAM sticks. It's better to double check the pin count.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SO-DIMM

    If the space is closer to the middle then your system is a DDR3 module. They have an image at that wikipedia link so you can check it out.

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  43. There are N455 S10-3T systems which use 204 pin DDR3.

    N450 and N470 use 200 pin DDR2

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  44. I have a question :)
    I have Lenovo S10-3t with Intel Atom N455 with 1GB od some DDR I don't know witch is it DDR2 or DDR3 because it says it is 667Mhz... So anyway I am going to upgrade it to 2GB and I readed here that my model N455 can work with DDR-3...
    So My question is, can my model really work with DDR3? And what kind of DDR3 memory should I buy, 204pin with what kind of Mhz?

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  45. The N455 only allows DDR3. DDR3 uses 204 pins. DDR2 uses 200 pin.

    For the Lenovo S10-3T N455 you must use:
    PC3-10600 DDR3 SODIMM

    Like these ones:
    http://acite.info/a-s103tn455ddr3

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  46. Thanks a lot :)

    I have 2 more questions :)

    1) If i use: 2GB DDR3 1333MHz 204-PIN PC3-10600 SO-DIMM, will there be any heat problems that s10-3t couldn't handle?

    2) I have found a 4GB DDR3 1333MHz PC3-10600 SO-DIMM... Is it too much for s10-3t? Because I have read here that s10-3t can handle as much as 2GB.
    I do not want to experiment, so I just want to be sure that I do not make a mistake and get carryed away and buy a 4GB :P

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  47. Oh, and the 4GB DDR3 is 204-PIN, I forgot to add that :)

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  48. 1. I don't know.

    2. 2GB max. 4GB would be a waste on the S10-3T.

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  49. Thanks :)
    All the best and take care! :)

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  50. ...ordered new DDR3 to replace misordered DDR2 and everything works like a charm. Next step is to figure out do I invest to upgrading Windows or install Ubuntu/MeeGo to this.

    Thanks for the tip and thanks for these great pages. I was actually really close to sell this baby, but after tuning up, this machine is like new and rocks. With your tips, touch screen usability where highly improved as well.
    I use this currently as everyday home surfing tablet and great music player/jukebox with iTunes.

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  51. Hey Jesse. I literally just received my S10-3t today. My model has the Atom N455 processor, so I also ordered a 2GB DDR3 RAM. Its a Kingston 2GB DDR3 PC3-10600 1333 MHz module. When I install it and power the unit up, I get absolutely no response. Nothing loads. When I remove it and reinstall the original 1GB RAM, everything works as normal. Any idea if it is an incompatibility issue?

    P.S. thanks for all of your comments and tips. Without them, I probably would not have made this purchase.

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  52. Let me tell you this.... it seems like not even Lenovo knows what the hell is going on with the S10-3T.

    I have gone over the latest S10-3T spec sheet, and I have gone by what they wrote.

    You can view that spec sheet at:
    http://answers.viewtablets.com/64328/

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  53. In response to the post immediately above, I contacted Kingston today and learned that they have a special module, specially designed for the S10. Model KTL-TP3BS/2G (KTL = Kingston to Lenovo). The model I referenced, even though the specs seem right, is not compatible. It pays to investigate...

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  54. Hey Jesse I have the lenovo s10-3t n470 which supposedly already comes with a 2gb ram. My system runs very slow as it is so slow i actually thought i was running on a 1gb and was ready to buy the 2gb ram until i found out my model already came with a 2gb ram. Why does my system have the same performance description as those with 1 gb ram? Isnt my model supposed to be faster than those with 1 gb ram? I really thought my system had a 1gb ram thats how much it lags.

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  55. RAM helps improve performance of programs... but if you have too many programs running then you are overloading the CPU.

    I suspect a lot of background processes. Ctrl+Alt+Del should tell you how many you are running. By default all S10-3Ts come with "crapware/bloatware". I always recommend installing a fresh copy of Windows 7 (this removes all the bloatware) and then then you could only install the drivers that you need.

    (Using OneKey to restore your system adds the bloatware back).

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  56. Ok I will do that but will I have to pay for a copy of windows 7? I Have windows 7 premium I dont want to have to pay for another one. I was also planning on upgrading to an ssd by the end of this week, should I do what you just told me to do now or when I get the ssd?

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  57. I would get a hold of a Windows 7 installer and then use the serial number of your Windows 7 home premium that comes with your S10-3T. (I'm actually not sure if that would work).

    I think you should wait for the SSD. That way you save yourself some time by doing the installation only once. You could keep the hard drive as a backup too.

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  58. I have an answer! I am by no means a computer guru- but have learned from reading your posts. I discovered my Lenovo S10-3t, cosmic flight, is an ATOM N455, which means not only did I purchase it with 1GB RAM with already installed WIN 7 Home Premium but learned that the Crucial 2GB 256Mx64PC2-5300 CT25664AC667 DDR2 200-Pin SODIMM did not work- the Crucial 2GB 204-pin DDR3 256Mx64 SODIMM PC#-10600CL9 worked!

    But to really save time, I think the best thing to do is to open the computer and look at the RAM to see exactly how many pin counts there is (if the gap in the pins are closer to the middle - about an inch from the edge- then its a 204-pin, otherwise less than an inch to the gap is a 200-pin)

    I'm a happy user!

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  59. HI Jesse..im planning to buy a s10-3t.. hows the performance of this netbook when watching movies? playing games? how is the touchscreen response?
    thanks

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  60. For standard definition, DVD and up to 720p quality movies the S10-3T will do well. 1080p might give you trouble. Obviously to get the best experience with the S10-3T you need to optimize your system. If you don't there will be trouble.

    If you need a bit more power the Fujitsu T580 is similar in size but offers Core i3, and i5 CPUs. The price is much higher than the S10-3T.

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  61. i am planning to buy a s10-3t but it has atom n550 inside.
    do i need a 200 pin or 204 pin ram?
    you can use google translate on

    http://www.emag.ro/mini_laptop_netbook/tablet-pc-lenovo-ideapad-mini-s10-3t-cu-procesor-intel-174-atomtm-n550-15ghz-1gb-250gb-microsoft-windows-7-starter-negru--p59-058655

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  62. @anon, i have also n550, you need 204 pin 1066 mhz ddr3 sodimm

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  63. Try upgrading BIOS - with 24CN62WW, Kingston KVR1066 finally works!

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  64. Jaroslav FTW!!
    Man thanks a lot, never thought of that.
    After getting a 2GB DDR3 stick it wouldn't work out. Unfortunately I wasn't as smart as you and ordered a 2GB DDR2 stick that obviously doesn't work at all!! Haha
    But after updating the BIOS, the DDR3 module works.
    Cheers bud.
    By the way for future reference I used this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000JREMTO.

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  65. does n 550 model support 4 GB RAM ?

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  66. Hi

    Bought 2gig Memory for my Lenovo, but if i put it in, im greeted with a blank screen. Any Idea?

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  67. There are in fact two companies offering ram for my Atom N455 chipset netbook, the Gateway LT2811u. Supposed to work according to them.

    Intel states 2gb ram max, but then ads a cryptic statement that the max ram supported my CPU is ram chip dependant. Does that mean that higher density chips could find a way arround this limitation?

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